Former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani told CNN Tuesday that some police officers are bad actors and some even do things that are racist, but it is untrue to say the problem is ingrained.
"To give the impression that it is systemic is a cruel and really bad lie," Giuliani said on CNN's
"Out Front with Erin Burnett."
Burnett pointed to a recent analysis of federal data that showed between 2010 and 2012 that young black men were 21 times more likely to be killed by police than young white men.
She suggested that the statistic argued against Giuliani's statement.
"No it doesn't," Giuliani replied. "Statistics don't tell you anything."
He noted that young black men are more likely to commit violent crime than young white men by more than a 5-to-1 margin and that 70-75 percent of murders in New York City are committed by black suspects.
As a result, black people have a higher rate of interaction with police, he said.
"That's not racism, that's a fact," Giuliani said.
He added that it is also important to know what kind of crimes took place and if there was any provocation. And was one group more likely surrender than the other.
If someone is pulled over and refuses to give a police officer the requested license and registration, "you've just taken a relatively minor situation and made it into a really major one, because the cop is going to pull you out of the car, and anything can happen, Giuliani said.
The former mayor has been criticized for saying those protesting the deaths of black suspects at the hands of police should also be focusing on the high black-on-black crime rate.
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