The Deferred Action on Childhood Arrivals will be fixed eventually, but lawmakers must work together to fix the nation's "broken" system as well, the Rev. Franklin Graham said Saturday, while declaring the United States has a "sin problem" that must be solved.
"Our country is a country of laws, and I personally believe we need to obey the laws and follow the laws," Graham, the son of evangelist Rev. Billy Graham, told MSNBC's Alex Witt. "But our system is broken, and we need to fix the system."
And as the nation enters its first day of a partial government shutdown in years, Graham said that the matter is not a Republican issue or a Democrat one, and he hopes both will work together to fix the system.
"I do believe in the law," Graham said of DACA, "and until the law is fixed I believe we need to follow the law."
Graham said he does feel sorry for "dreamers," and that the nation needs to put its faith in God, as "our country has got a sin problem."
"I believe if these politicians in Washington would recognize the moral failure of so many of their policies, that maybe we could fix it," said Graham. "These dreamers, I feel sorry for them. Many of them have been in this country for a long time. I've got a young girl who works for me who was one of those dreamers, she married a young man in this country and was able to get her legal status but he had parents are still waiting after 18 years. And it's sad. It shouldn't be this way. It needs to be fixed."
However, Graham said he does agree with President Donald Trump on the need of a wall to protect the nation's southern border.
"There are dangerous people there and that border is porous," said Graham. "You can walk right across it, and I'm afraid that someone's going to come across the border with weapons that could hurt the American people. So we need to do something to beef up our wall."
The wall could even consist of a barrier, such as barbed wire, to keep people from walking across the border.
"There are dangerous people in the world," he said. "ISIS is still very powerful. Even though they've lost their territory in Syria and in Iraq. These ISIS operatives are all over the world and they'll walk right across that border if we'll let them."
Meanwhile, Graham defended Trump on reports that he'd called Haiti and African nations a vulgar word, and pointed out that it's "not the language I would want to use."
He does not, though, think any of the senators involved in the heated Oval Office had heard the word s***hole for the first time, and he's sure it's a word they have "used before."
"I think there's a little hypocrisy here," said Graham. [Trump] said he didn't say it, so I have to go along with the president."
Graham also weighed in about news reports that a lawyer for the president paid $130,000 to former adult movie star Stormy Daniels after she claimed that she'd had a sexual encounter with Trump in the early days of his marriage to Melania Trump.
"I can promise you he is not a president perfect," said Graham. "I don't think I've seen a president perfect yet. And if president perfect comes along I'm sure you and I and everybody else will get behind him and vote for him."
Further, Trump has not admitted to having an affair, and Graham said he thinks people need to give him the benefit of the doubt.