Alibaba founder Jack Ma is somewhat hesitant about the increasing technological automation that is replacing many human workers, but he does see a bright side of how robots will improve the lives of the American workforce.

In a recent interview with CNBC, Ma outlines two ways he thinks automation will improve the lives of those who can keep their jobs.

Less time spent working

"Believe it or not, I think in the next 30 years, people will only work four hours a day," Ma tells CNBC's David Faber, "and maybe four days a week."

More time for travel

Because automation will reduce the number of hours humans have to work, people will be able to travel more. Ma says that today people visit an average of 30 places in their lifetime but in the future, that number may be as high as 300.

"I think the good thing," Ma says, "is that technology is going to improve people's lives."

Meanwhile, Yale Economist Robert Shiller contends that just maybe robots should be taxed if they end up taking away jobs from hard-working Americans.

Shiller argued that there has been a flood of innovations that make life easier for people, yet eliminate the human element, such as Google Home, Amazon Echo Dot (Alexa), driverless taxi services, and Doordash, which uses Starship Technologies miniature self-driving vehicles to replace restaurant delivery people.

“If these and other labor-displacing innovations succeed, surely calls to tax them will grow more frequent, owing to the human problems that arise when people lose their jobs – often jobs with which they closely identify, and for which they may have spent years preparing,” he wrote in his syndicated blog.

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