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GOP's Sasse, Democrats Call Whistleblower Complaint Credible and Troubling

By    |   Wednesday, 25 September 2019 07:44 PM EDT

Democrats who reviewed a secret whistleblower complaint involving President Donald Trump Wednesday called it "deeply disturbing" and said it gives them new leads to pursue as they consider impeachment.

The complaint from an intelligence committee whistleblower, the document at the center of a firestorm about Trump's handling of Ukraine, was made available to members of House and Senate intelligence committees Wednesday after weeks of delay. Lawmakers were allowed to see the complaint the evening before acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire was set to testify to Congress about it.

The complaint is at least in part related to a July phone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy in which Trump prodded Zelenskiy to investigate Democratic political rival Joe Biden. The White House released a rough transcript of that call Wednesday morning.

Late Wednesday, The New York Times reported that the whistleblower complaint not only raises concerns about the call itself, but how other officials reacted to it and dealt with records of the call.

The whistleblower identified several White House officials as witnesses to what the Times described as potential presidential misconduct. The inspector general for the intelligence community, Michael Atkinson, interviewed these witnesses.

Atkinson also found reason to believe that the whistleblower may not support the re-election of Trump. He also made clear that the complainant was not in a position to directly listen to the call or see the memo that reconstructed it before it was made public.

But Atkinson concluded there was reason to believe that the president may have illegally solicited a foreign campaign donation as well as created a legitimate national security risk, the Times reported.

The whistleblower did not hear the call itself but only picked up details of it second-hand from White House officials who were also deeply worried about Trump's actions.

House Democrats emerging from a secure room would not divulge details of the complaint, but described it as disturbing and urgent. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, D-Calif., said it "exposed serious wrongdoing" and "certainly provides information for the committee to follow up with others."

California Rep. Eric Swalwell told CNN that the whistleblower "laid out a lot of other documents and witnesses who were subjects in this matter."

The lawmakers did not learn the identity of the whistleblower, according to one person familiar with the complaint who was granted anonymity to discuss it.

But CNN reported that the whistleblower has agreed to testify before lawmakers if attorneys can be granted security clearance to be present during the testimony.

A Democratic member of the panel, Illinois Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi, said the whistleblower "lays out the situation very logically" and "is both acknowledging the things that he or she knows and doesn't know, which is a hallmark of a credible document."

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi — who on Tuesday fully endorsed an impeachment investigation in light of the Ukraine revelations — and Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer also viewed the complaint. Schumer said he is even "more worried" now than he was before reading it and "there are huge numbers of facts crying out for investigation."

Most Republicans were quiet or defended the president as they left the secure rooms. But at least one Republican said he was concerned by what he had read.

"Republicans ought not to be rushing to circle the wagons and say there's no 'there there' when there's obviously a lot that's very troubling there," said Nebraska Sen. Ben Sasse, a GOP member of the Senate intelligence panel who has been an occasional critic of Trump. He added that "Democrats ought not be using words like 'impeach' before they knew anything about the actual substance."

Trump, whose administration had earlier balked at turning over the complaint, said Wednesday afternoon that "I fully support transparency on the so-called whistleblower information" and that he had communicated that position to House Minority Leader Rep. Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif.

The rough transcript released by the White House on Wednesday showed that Trump prodded Zelenskiy to work with the U.S. attorney general and Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani to investigate Democratic political rival Joe Biden.

Lawmakers said they needed to see the complaint, not just the memo about the call, as they investigate the president and whether his actions were inappropriate. Pelosi on Tuesday said that if Trump abused his presidential powers, it would mark a "betrayal of his oath of office."

It is unclear if the complaint will eventually be made public. Both Republicans and Democrats have called for it to be released.

New York Rep. Elise Stefanik, a GOP member of the House panel, tweeted that "it should be immediately declassified and made public for the American people to read." New York Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, a member of Democratic leadership, agreed, saying he expects it will be made public "sooner rather than later."

The House and Senate committees have also invited the whistleblower to testify, but it is uncertain whether the person will appear and whether his or her identity could be adequately protected without Maguire's blessing. Schiff said Wednesday morning that Maguire still had not provided any instructions on how that could happen.

The unidentified whistleblower submitted a complaint to Michael Atkinson, the U.S. government's intelligence inspector general, in August. Maguire then blocked release of the complaint to Congress, citing issues of presidential privilege and saying the complaint did not deal with an "urgent concern." Atkinson disagreed, but said his hands were tied.

Maguire is testifying publicly before the House Intelligence Committee on Thursday and privately before the Senate panel. Atkinson, who met privately with House lawmakers last week, will also talk privately to the Senate committee Thursday.

Material from Reuters and the Associated Press was used in this story.

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Democrats and one Republican on U.S. congressional intelligence panels said on Wednesday after viewing a whistleblower complaint concerning President Donald Trump that the allegations were credible and troubling. The complaint, lodged by a member of the U.S. intelligence...
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