Continuing his defense of President Donald Trump amid the leak of surreptitious recordings, lawyer Rudy Giuliani repeated claims the president "didn't do anything wrong" and "didn't commit a crime of any kind, adding an ominous warning this "witch hunt" can permanently damage the presidencies of the United States.
"All you've heard is basically what we've said before – in that sense, they prove that this investigation is going nowhere," Giuliani told "The Cats Roundtable" on 970 AM-N.Y. of the leaks this week of Michael Cohen's private conversations with then-candidate Trump. "Donald Trump didn't do anything wrong. He didn't commit a crime of any kind.
"Whenever they investigate these things, it sounds like a lot at first, and then it turns out to be nothing."
Giuliani also repeated calls for special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian collusion to be "ending soon," because this form of a political attack leaves the U.S. in peril as it will lead to copycat attacks on future administrations.
"This is exactly what the president has always said, whether he meant it or not, it is turning out to be a witch hunt in the sense that everybody knows there's no collusion — he didn't collude with the Russians," Giuliani to host John Catsimatidis, also denouncing the turn of the probe's focus to obstruction of justice for a crime that was never committed.
"I don't know how they have a claim there is an obstruction here. . . . He fired [FBI Direct James] Comey. Anybody would have fired Comey. Everybody wanted him fired, until he did it.
". . . To allow [the witch hunt] to go on and continue, it really will encourage somebody to do it to another president next time, and maybe they won't have the stamina that this president has."
Giuliani has dealt with the release of two private recordings of Cohen this week, waiving attorney-client privilege on them for the defense of the president, he told Catsimatidis.
"It would be a violation of the court rules of the Southern District," Giuliani said of the leaks. "We are not supposed to reveal the content of the tapes unless we have to do it for defensive purposes."
Special Master Barbara Jones, an independent judge, was assigned to sift through the Cohen items seized in the FBI raid, allowing attorneys to determine which ones they would claim attorney-client privilege on, Giuliani told Catsimatidis.
Before the raid, President Trump's former "fixer" Cohen claimed he would take a "bullet" for the president because he "loves him."
"He has some way of expressing his love, I'll tell you that," Giuliani told Catsimatidis.
In addition to rejecting any claims the Cohen tapes prove a crime committed by the president, Giuliani also suggested somebody "played around" and "doctored" them.
The strategic attacks on the presidency, Giuliani said, will not keep President Trump from his work in the White House, though.
"It doesn’t matter for him," Giuliani concluded. "He goes ahead and lowers taxes. He goes ahead and works on trade. . . . The president has accomplished a great deal. Just think of what he would accomplish if this weight were off his shoulders.
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