Special counsel Robert Mueller would be prosecuting “by innuendo” if he concludes President Donald Trump colluded with Russia and obstructed justice based on what his ex-attorney Michael Cohen claims, Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani said Sunday,
In an interview on ABC News’ “This Week,” the former mayor of New York City and federal prosecutor was asked if the case against Cohen — sentenced last week to three years in prison for financial crimes , including paying hush money to women at the direction of Trump — suggested Mueller was heading toward a case of collusion and obstruction of justice against Trump.
“Isn't that prosecution by innuendo?” Guliani replied. “I have no idea what they're talking about. I know that collusion is not a crime. It was over with by the time of the election. I don't know what evidence he has of that.”
In repeated assaults, Giuliani called Cohen a feckless liar.
“Unless you’re God, this man, you’ll never know what the truth is,” he said.
“The president said it was false,” Giuliani said of Cohen’s claim Trump told him to pay hush money to cover up alleged affairs. “[Cohen] said it was false under oath. He said it was false on five tape recorded conversations. He said on those tape recorded conversations he did it on his own and then he brought it to the president. Clear as a bell under oath. Now he says the opposite. Which is the truth? I think I know what the truth is.”
He charged Cohen’s “double cross” came after he failed to get a promise of a pardon.
“I had conversations with his lawyers,” recounting that he told them, “‘The liar can say whatever he wants. There will be no pardons. Don't consider it in your thinking now.’ I think that's one of the reasons he double crossed.”
For his part, Giuliani thinks Mueller has mostly wrapped things up.”
“He is done,” he said. “I told you the only thing left are parking tickets and jay walking.”
But in a separate interview on “Fox News Sunday,” he said there’d be no way he’d ever let Trump sit down for a face-to-face interview with Mueller.
"Over my dead body. But you know, I could be dead," Giuliani said.
The feisty Giuliani, in his “This Week” remarks, also denied that longtime Trump ally Roger Stone gave Trump a heads-up on a WikiLeaks dump of Democratic emails that would be damaging to Hillary Clinton.
“ If Roger Stone gave anybody a heads-up about WikiLeaks leaks, that's not a crime,” he insisted. “It's like a heads-up The [New York] Times is going to print something. The crime is conspiracy to hack. Collusion is not a crime. Doesn't exist.
To Giuliani, prosecutors are “grasping for straws,” and declared he was particularly “disgusted” by federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York, who prosecuted Cohen.
“It's not a crime, paying $130,000 to Stormy whatever and the other one is not a crime,” he said, referring to alleged affairs with porn star Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal.
“In the past, I can't speak to,” he added. “The amount of money is consistent with harassment, not truth. I've been involved in cases like this. When you have the kind of money the president has, it's a $1 million settlement. When it's not true, you give them $130,000. They went away with so little, it proves they were weak. Now Stormy Daniels has to pay the president's legal fees. They're going to look for the president's unpaid parking tickets.”
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